Merlyn's Comic Books and More
User Info

Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password

Membership:
Latest: AsenWolf
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 898

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 73
Total: 73
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Community Forums
02: Community Forums
03: Community Forums
04: Community Forums
05: Community Forums
06: Community Forums
07: Community Forums
08: Home
09: Home
10: Home
11: Community Forums
12: Stories Archive
13: Community Forums
14: Community Forums
15: Community Forums
16: Stories Archive
17: Community Forums
18: Community Forums
19: Home
20: Stories Archive
21: Home
22: Community Forums
23: Community Forums
24: Community Forums
25: Home
26: Community Forums
27: Stories Archive
28: Home
29: Home
30: Community Forums
31: Community Forums
32: Community Forums
33: Home
34: Community Forums
35: My Account
36: Home
37: Community Forums
38: Community Forums
39: Home
40: Community Forums
41: Home
42: Community Forums
43: Community Forums
44: Stories Archive
45: Home
46: Community Forums
47: Community Forums
48: Community Forums
49: Community Forums
50: Community Forums
51: Community Forums
52: Home
53: Home
54: Community Forums
55: Community Forums
56: Community Forums
57: Community Forums
58: Home
59: Community Forums
60: Community Forums
61: Community Forums
62: Community Forums
63: Stories Archive
64: Community Forums
65: Stories Archive
66: Community Forums
67: Community Forums
68: Community Forums
69: Community Forums
70: Stories Archive
71: Home
72: Community Forums
73: Home

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!

Main Menu

Community Forums › Comic books › DC › Why does Superman hate America? Action Comics #900
Why does Superman hate America? Action Comics #900

Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page     Forum IndexDC
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
td9993
Intarweb Mastar!


Joined: Dec 31, 1969
Posts: 461
Location: Spokane

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:18 pm    Post subject: Why does Superman hate America? Action Comics #900

The following contains spoilers for Superman #900, so if haven't read it yet and plan to, DO NOT read any further.

So the basic plot of #900 is this.
Superman flies to Camp David to talk to the National Security Adviser.
Supes also notices a two man sniper team with kryptonite bullets on the outer ridges.
The NSA agent is extremely mad, asking him "Why did you do it?".
Supers explains that he went into Tehran to protect some protesters from Ahmadinejad's forces. They had put their lives on the line for freedom and he wanted to let them know they weren't alone. He further explains that he can stop alien hordes but has problems when governments stop treating people with basic human rights.
So he shows up in the middle of the protest and stands there.
Just stands.
For 24 hours, never moving.
The crowds grew. After 24 hours, he left, hoping it would have done some good.
It didn't.
Now the Iranian government is accusing Superman of acting on the Presidents behalf and as an Act of War.
So Supes tells him that he will go to the UN and renounce his citizenship with America.
He says, "Truth, Justice and the American Way.....just aren't enough anymore. The World's too small. Too connected. I'm an alien. Born on another planet. I can't help but see the bigger picture. I've been thinking too small. I realize that now.".



So, of course, the only time a news organization ever picks up a comic book is when they can bend it to their own agenda and not surprising, it's FOX news and it's followers that leads the charge.
*Don't buy the stupid magazine. How about coming up with a new American Patriot Superman?
*Superman Fighting for Truth, Un-American Way
*Besides being riddled with a blatant lack of patriotism, and respect for our country, Superman's current creators are belittling the United States as a whole. By denouncing his citizenship, Superman becomes an eerie metaphor for the current economic and power status the country holds worldwide,



Now we have to remember that "American Way", like "God" in the Pledge of Allegiance, was added LATER.
Originally, back before WWII, the Fleischer cartoons informed us that Superman "fought a never-ending battle for truth and justice.".
The "American Way" bit was first added in the radio-show intro in 1942, then dropped in 1944. In the first Superman movie serial, the line comes out as Pa Kent telling Clark that he must use his powers "in the interests of truth, tolerance and justice."
The 1950s TV show, during the Cold War, brought back "...the American Way." The 1966 cartoon used "truth, justice and freedom."
(Originally Posted by Kurt Busiek, Superman writer and Comic Book Historian)
So basically, it's not that Superman stood for the "American Way" all the time, just when people needed it mentioned.

I have to admit I have some....agitation against people who haven't picked up a comic book in ages to even HAVE an opinion on this. It would be like me saying how the Yankees suck. (I haven't watched a full baseball game since I went to see the Spokane Indians play back in the 1990's.) In other words, I don't go your favorite spots and tell you how it should be done.
These people have this...idea in their head that something they haven't looked at had been frozen in time, never changed. It's like knowing basic math and someone telling you about "new math".
Wait, what?

As I see it, we as humans need to change. It's called evolution and this is simply Supermans "evolution".
Look, we had a good run. We had him for over 70 years, fighting for our side. Times change and so should we.
Now he fights for all of us. Why should we not share. If you have a steak and your neighbor is hungry, isn't the better choice to share?

If he wasn't born here, he belongs to all of us.
And ya, you can make the "Jesus analogy" right here "___________"

Now we're all (most of us) normal thinking human beings and realize this is a printed character. He's not real. Believe it or not, most geeks, nerds, whatever, we get that and arguing over it is pretty stupid most of the time. But this isn't some Mountain Dew enraged "Enterprise can beat a Star Destroyer" scream-fest you'd find at your local hobby shop.
(shop Merlyn's where everything is 10% off, all the time. Copyright 2011).

This is about a symbol.
As the Ghostbusters said,
RAY: Something that appeals to the best in each and every one of us --
SPENGLER:Something good --
VENKMAN: And pure --
WINSTON: And decent.


Superman has been as much of symbol for America as the Statue of Liberty and for a long time, that was something we needed, but those times have changed. We can't save the World by only saving ourselves.
We can only do it by seeing the bigger picture and that's what Superman has done.
"Truth, Justice and the American Way.....just aren't enough anymore. The World's too small. Too connected. I can't help but see the bigger picture. I've been thinking too small. I realize that now.".

Just wait until Captain America premieres and we can discuss why republicans/democrats hate him/love him.
We can also take the time to discuss how Wonder Woman's costume doesn't look like a flag anymore because it's disgracing the flag by using it as clothing except when your an Amazon with a great body, but let's face it.
Those short-shorts weren't exactly screaming "respect me as a warrior princess", so I'm glad they're gone. And yes, I realize many, many, MANY of you will have a problem with that statement.

And the first person to say "I want to see Clark Kents Birth Certificate", get a poke in the Adams Apple.

_________________
Listen and read the 1940's adventures of Martin's Raiders

Watch The HANGAR BAY SHOW - It's not the nerd-cast you deserve, it's the one you need!
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page     Forum IndexDC All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1


Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Latest Posts
Last 10 Forum Messages

FORGE WAR
Last post by MIK_EL_PABST in General Gaming Discussion on Jun 05, 2018 at 03:46:00

MUNCHKIN COLLECTIBLE CARD GAME
Last post by MIK_EL_PABST in General Gaming Discussion on May 14, 2018 at 02:19:12

Firefly Adventures: Brigands and Browncoats
Last post by MIK_EL_PABST in General Gaming Discussion on May 08, 2018 at 02:39:43

Tons of New Bones Minis!
Last post by CharlesFaust in D&D Minis on Apr 14, 2018 at 20:11:22

New miniatures, RPG books, and games!
Last post by CharlesFaust in General Gaming Discussion on Apr 06, 2018 at 23:06:43

New Pre-Con Decks for MTG!
Last post by CharlesFaust in Magic: The Gathering on Apr 06, 2018 at 17:50:54

New Graphic Novels, Kids Books, Collectibles, and More!
Last post by CharlesFaust in Graphic Novels on Apr 04, 2018 at 18:33:48

Forgebane!
Last post by CharlesFaust in GW Warhammer 40k on Mar 23, 2018 at 23:27:09

Star Wars Legion Now Available!
Last post by CharlesFaust in Other on Mar 22, 2018 at 18:12:43

New Graphic Novels!
Last post by CharlesFaust in Graphic Novels on Mar 21, 2018 at 19:05:37


Survey
Best comic book to movie adaptation




Results :: Polls

Votes: 1543
Comments: 4

Links

Get Firefox!
The logos and trademarks used on this site are the property of their respective owners
We are not responsible for comments posted by our users, as they are the property of the poster
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy
Created by Mars