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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:54 pm    Post subject: wondering if this is a legal army

this is richard and i was wondering if this army is legal,

grenadier kompanie,
comp comand upgraded to panzerknacker
puppchen launcher and a mortar section,

2 grenadier platoons with light mortars

a hmg platoon with 2 sections

a tank platoon with 2 panzer 4 h's and a panzer 4 e

and two tigers




this is what i have made i do not no if i can add the tank platoon or not i would really like to no or not thanks for the info.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: wondering if this is a legal army

Yes it is a legal list, but it is pretty weak with having two tigers. You need at least 1 HQ and 2 Combat Platoons to form a legal force (HQ w/ mortars and 2 Grenadier squads).

You are aloud to have 2 Support Platoons for each combat platoon you have, thus you can have 4 Support Platoons. Your HMG is a weapons platoons which has a 0-1 limit. From what it looks like you have 2 support platoons (Tigers and Panzers) out of 4, so you may purchase two more if you please. Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: wondering if this is a legal army

No the germans are only alloud to have 1 suppourt platoon for every combat platoon. So you are 1 suppourt platoon over. That force looks to be more that 1500 points so you really dont need to worry about it. But if you are trying to make your force 2000 points, then you will need either another combat platoon, or you will need a weapons platoon. Basically your second tiger is useless unless you think of an effective way to use it in a 2000 point force. When you look in the german forces section, It will say how many suppourt platoons you can have per combat platoon.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: wondering if this is a legal army

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No the germans are only alloud to have 1 suppourt platoon for every combat platoon. So you are 1 suppourt platoon over. That force looks to be more that 1500 points so you really dont need to worry about it. But if you are trying to make your force 2000 points, then you will need either another combat platoon, or you will need a weapons platoon. Basically your second tiger is useless unless you think of an effective way to use it in a 2000 point force. When you look in the german forces section, It will say how many suppourt platoons you can have per combat platoon.

Sorry, I just rememberd the two tigers are in the same platoon. I suggest for a 2000 point game, you drop 1 or both of them. I have played 5 games with a tiger, every time it has done nothing but get blown up. They are a waste of points, considering you could get 4 panzer III J (lates) for the price of a tiger.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: wondering if this is a legal army

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No the germans are only alloud to have 1 suppourt platoon for every combat platoon. So you are 1 suppourt platoon over. That force looks to be more that 1500 points so you really dont need to worry about it. But if you are trying to make your force 2000 points, then you will need either another combat platoon, or you will need a weapons platoon. Basically your second tiger is useless unless you think of an effective way to use it in a 2000 point force. When you look in the german forces section, It will say how many suppourt platoons you can have per combat platoon.

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"You may have two Support Platoons for each Grenadier Platoon you field."

So as I said before, he can have 4 Support platoons. Combat platoons doesnt really matter between 1500pts and 2000pts, just aslong as you have two (I wouldnt suggest you get another). I would say you should get some pioneers, artillery, or mortars into you force.

BTW, who are you Dungeon_Master123???
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: wondering if this is a legal army

No, im evan, remember i beat snakesh!t at merlyns. He got really ticked off.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: wondering if this is a legal army

wait, can a panzer company have two suppourt platoons.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:58 pm    Post subject: Re: wondering if this is a legal army

uhh, I believe that all German companies get two support options for each combat platoons, Ill have to double check.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:35 pm    Post subject: Re: wondering if this is a legal army

hey i decided to take out bot tigers add a ferninand and a hummel platoon of 3 hummel's so i would have a stronger armor with some very nice artillery i have 1 hummel and am going to hobbytown to get another and ordered 2 from merlyns just in case
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 3:54 am    Post subject: Re: wondering if this is a legal army

Hello There ,

Just a couple of Points -

Grenadier companies cant have Panzer platoons as support,

They do get 2 support options per platoon ,

Grenadier companies cant have Armoured Artillery batteries so no Hummels I'm afraid.

You can have normal 105mm batteries as support from the grenadier list and you can also have Assault guns , which is the nearest you can get to a tank platoon , 460 pts for three Stug F's.

OstFront Page 45 also lists the Weapons & support options available to a grenadier Kompanie - I can only suggest if you want Panzers and Hummels you switch to a Panzergrenadier Kompanie which allows you to use the options you have chosen.

Hope this helps

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: wondering if this is a legal army

Bob, Very good points and Bob is correct on grenadier composition. There are many good options for grenadiers but there are limitations.

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